As for those battles, it is more the situation of Alexander the Great whom, to borrow a line from Washington Irving, “who wept, as well indeed he might, because there were no more worlds to conquer”
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 30, 2020
Maybe Robert Bellarmine is the guy for the job!
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 30, 2020
Pray that the Holy Spirit guides my writing! The quicker I get this done, the quicker I’ll be back!
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 30, 2020
Thanks so much! It’s really a matter of getting the work done that’ll help me continue to have that voice in a way that’ll be even more helpful.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 30, 2020
Thanks! It’s really just a time management thing. I’m so close to the finish line with my dissertation that I just want to sprint across, so I’m shutting down things like social media which might slow me up.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 30, 2020
I’ll be locking this account and logging off for a good while tomorrow morning. While I enjoy the exchange of ideas on here, it’s too often a time waster for me and, being focused on finishing my PhD a year early, shuttling down here is an easy thing to accomplish that goal.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 30, 2020
Hey everyone, thanks for following me! Having handed in what will hopefully be the final draft of my thesis proposal yesterday, and looking toward moving to writing my dissertation, I’ve decided that I’m going to take a break from Twitter for a good long while.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 30, 2020
It’s an excellent chain @Sirtakeiteasy1, and proves the point well.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 29, 2020
The Church isn’t burning Abby & this isn’t liberation theology. It is an inculturated image of Christ just as much as the image of Christ in the Sistine Chapel, based on images of the Greek god Apollo, is. Jesus wasn’t white, if you’re not racist, I’m not sure why it’s a problem https://t.co/QrqOQ0Qoyu
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 29, 2020
The Church isn’t burning Abby & this isn’t liberation theology. It is an inculturated image of Christ just as much as the image of Christ in the Sistine Chapel, based on images of the Greek god Apollo, is. Jesus wasn’t white, not sure why that’s a problem for you. #BLM
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 29, 2020
Working on all of those things, poverty, racism, education, the environment, the death penalty is how we evangelize the culture and promote such a deep respect for the dignity of all human beings such that abortion will not only been illegal, it’ll be unthinkable.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 29, 2020
Also, pro-life isn’t just an abortion question for me. It’s that, but it’s issues of poverty, racism, criminal justice reform, environmental stability, you know, kingdom of God type stuff.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 29, 2020
Its a both/and. The framers couldn’t have imagined the industrial abortion complex we have today, but they left some guiding principles in the original text which easily could’ve guided the Court in a different direction in ‘73. That said, evangelizing a culture of life is key.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 29, 2020
The #SupremeCourt really had a bad day with the consistent ethic of life. You’d think that a majority #Catholic court would understand that opposing #abortion and the #deathpenalty fall under the Constitution’s concern for general welfare? #ProLife (from womb to tomb)
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 29, 2020
Maybe we can pitch masks to trads as a modesty aid?
— Melba Toast 🍞 (@melbataj) June 28, 2020
They did this year too
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 28, 2020
Hey @Travelers, if someone lands a ball on the umbrella in the middle of the lake, is it in play? If so, is there a boat?
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 28, 2020
When @icecube rightly dunks on the assumption that all images of #Jesus are inherently racist, (sorry @shaunking), backs #PopeFrancis, and tweets something relevant to your #academic work all at once. #itwasagoodday https://t.co/0agRj2ZMYW
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 28, 2020
Welcome to the wonderful world of popular piety.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 28, 2020
Anyone ever wonder if social media is just a turbo-booster for what Girard would call memetic rivalry and that’s why things are maybe a bit too heated in society today? Just me? Hmmm... #Catholic #theology
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 28, 2020
Chapter 4 of my dissertation!
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 27, 2020
I Decided to watch an episode of #FloorIsLavaNetflix as a break from writing about voodoo as Idolotry. Now I feel the need to do many box jumps. pic.twitter.com/FIILSKroHJ
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 27, 2020
Pope Benedict XVI as birds, a thread: pic.twitter.com/ptlYtuSSJo
— local french woman (@baguettelocale) June 27, 2020
the 4 y/o told me she dreamed about "a hundred eyes," but it was a happy dream and she loved all the eyes. hope she and the seraphim had a good chat
— Elizabeth Bruenig (@ebruenig) June 27, 2020
Hahaha... so not better, just tactically different.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 26, 2020
Well, I’d also like to make sure that they don’t know who reported them so that I can report them again if they keep doing it and get them suspended or removed.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 26, 2020
Haha I get similar lines on the theological tilt from certain anti-intellectual elements all the time.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 26, 2020
I’ve heard that. My parents have YouTube TV, perhaps I’ll give it a watch while I’m visiting. Thanks for the recommendation!
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 26, 2020
Me vs. my dissertation proposal when all of the Karate Kid movies are about to come to @netflix pic.twitter.com/eE6J682BBQ
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 26, 2020
It’s as if I wasn’t clear enough a couple of weeks back. If you engage in hateful speech, especially while claiming to be more #Catholic than the pope, I’m going to report you, pretty plain and simple. #CatholicTwitter, if we’re going to have such a thing, needs to be better. pic.twitter.com/MvcN5q6spp
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 26, 2020
I’d be asking the question of who assigned stalls and why that particular one was assigned to the only African American driver.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 25, 2020
Want to learn how to really insult your #theological interlocutor? Try using some St. Jerome: “he plays the philosopher over his cups, and soothes himself with the sweet strains of psalmody, while he smacks his lips over his cheese-cakes” (oh and he compares the guy to monsters.)
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 25, 2020
They’re not wrong, all too often the question of women’s ordination revolves around the question of power, which is a complete misunderstanding of the nature of a priesthood tied to the Kenotic mystery of Jesus Christ in the first place.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 25, 2020
Their eminences have a good point. We need to remember that #Catholic #priesthood is about service, not power, and live that well as a #Church first. I really think that it’s only then that conversations about whom we ordain could ever really be fruitful. https://t.co/OgX7jP9I7O
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 25, 2020
For the record, I 100% hold with the prophetic voice of the laity. Those just seem to be logically incoherent positions to hold.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 25, 2020
It cracks me up when certain spheres of #Catholic Twitter make claims for their authority to speak theologically against VCII & against the hierarchy because of principle that the laity have a prophetic voice, which is an important VC II concept. The logical incoherence stupefies
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 25, 2020
Oh the irony!
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 25, 2020
Just, as John XXIII noted, “superior of the Holy Spirt” sounds more powerful than “Vicar of Christ”
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 25, 2020
Emerson once wrote that every sunset brings the promise of a new dawn. Here’s to the beautiful promise that a sunset like this assures is of. @ Weekapaug Breachway https://t.co/QvGzIoQGxC
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 25, 2020
Rilke once wrote: “I have often wondered whether especially those days when we are forced to remain idle are not precisely the days spend in the most profound activity. Whether our actions themselves, even if they do… https://t.co/f7ssU3nIEX
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 23, 2020
Sometimes Kids get it better than we can. Prayers for your family!
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 23, 2020
Both intellectual and facial hair goals.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 23, 2020
Just to be clear for those who might like the above post, I think that competent government authorities should immediately remove every #ConfederateFlag and all #ConfederateStatues from public land immediately. Those are, undoubtedly signs of treason & opression. They also lost.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 23, 2020
Let’s tear down oppression, and let’s respect the many cultural depictions of Christ that have fed the souls of the faithful for 2000 years. (The image is the Black Nazarene, brought from Mexico to where it is venerated in the Philippines, a multicultural image of Christ.) pic.twitter.com/8crJwI4aEG
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 23, 2020
You’ve set up a straw man here, mainline Christianity doesn’t hold that. We know Jesus was a 1st century Palestinian Jewish Man. Iconodule traditions have also always respected the inculturated images of Christ that all peoples produce. You’re out of your depth here @shaunking.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 23, 2020
Where images of Jesus have been used to oppress it’s a helpful conversation which should be had about those specific images, but this is a intellectually irresponsible approach that comes from a place of little knowledge of religious images.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 23, 2020
The unqualified claim that all images of Christ inculturated into a European context are tools of White Supremacy is simply false & irresponsible ideology. There are important black inculturated images of Christ, & a famous Latina image of Mary at Guadalupe. Give actual examples.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 23, 2020
Another meaningless executive order. pic.twitter.com/lsGU5Dqy6k
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 23, 2020
Sadly, this is short-sighted and neglects the ways in which each culture casts religious images in their own context. The Black Nazarene and Our Lady of Guadalupe are powerful inculturated images, as are Divine Mercy and Our Lady of Lourdes. Keep both, impose none.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 23, 2020
Sadly, @shaunking, this is short-sighted and neglects the ways in which each culture casts religious images in their own context. The Black Nazarene and Our Lady of Guadalupe are powerful inculturated images, as are Divine Mercy and Our Lady of Lourdes. Keep both, impose none. https://t.co/6NbCPSJvNf
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 23, 2020
Take it as a badge of honor. Sadly the man has slipped into schism.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 23, 2020
Warning #baseball tweet: I like that the rules are different in the #AmericanLeague and the #NationalLeague for the #DH. It’s a fun tradition that is an interesting part of the game. I’m glad the universal DH didn’t happen. https://t.co/ShQv0g6h5C
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 23, 2020
Proving that ours is a merciful God
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 23, 2020
It seems so. Just a campaign ad for Trump
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 23, 2020
Yeah, this interview showed what a sad sycophant Arroyo is. Legitimate Catholic journalism should treat the election more objectively.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 23, 2020
As am I, it means he thinks you could best him in an actual debate. Take it as a badge of honor, @TaylorRMarshall is a coward who relies on absolute agreement on his timeline to maintain his brand (ie its all about book sales for him)
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 22, 2020
What I said is that it’s not an “always” thing, which means that it’s a part of the development of doctrine, which means doctrine develops. That salvation subsists within the Church, as the binding magisterial teaching in Lumen Gentium holds, is a faithful development.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 22, 2020
Augustine disagrees with Cyprians point on baptism in On Baptism against the Donatists, which we still do. We don’t rebaptize those baptized by heretics. In the end, my point stands EENS is third century, not “always” as you listed as premise. Without that, your argument fails.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 22, 2020
Actually “Salus extra ecclesiam non est” was introduced in the 3rd century by St Cyprian in the context of rebaptizing those baptized by heretics. While others modified the concept, Cyprian’s opinion on the baptism matter was refuted by Augustine. So it’s not an “always,” thing.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 22, 2020
That’s where I think that using Eagleton’s distinction might help us parse out what that means going forward a bit better as we look at how those who were subjects of missionary activity now take a lead role in the governance of the universal Church.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 22, 2020
The answer is likely yes and no. One can never fully escape one’s roots, but one can have a strongly empathetic connection to a culture or people. I think what I am more worried about, though, are claims that Christianity is essentially European. 1/2
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 22, 2020
Agreed, the interchange is important in itself, I don’t think there’s a need for some sort of purity which would be a break with history. I do think that it’s important to avoid a certain European exceptionalism or at least a view in which the European perspective is normative
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 22, 2020
It applies in Africa & Asia as well. How much “civilization” implies value judgements which are just European and not specifically Christian is an important question to what we expect in the #Catholic Church with the global south rightly taking the reigns more and more.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 22, 2020
I think that Terry Eagleton’s distinction between culture & civilization is a really important one for the #Catholic Church to better understand the effect of the ascendancy of the global south in our ranks. Are we intent on preserving the Gospel or are we fixed on European Civ?
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 22, 2020
Well, as you know, in some cases they have been. My main point is that they can’t assert a specifically more Catholic identity, as they do, and also make the assertion that VCII is invalid. It’s a logically incoherent position.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 22, 2020
Nope, not arguing about anyone’s intellect, just pointing out that one can’t make an argument about what’s Catholic from a premise which is inherently anti-Catholic. The logic doesn’t work at the beginning, which means the rest of the conversation, like this one, will be a waste.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 21, 2020
Not worth engaging a person if the basic premise underlying their argument is logically incoherent and they’re not willing to part with it, no matter how obvious that incoherence should be to them.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 21, 2020
And also a taste for schism with the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apstolic Church, apparently.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 21, 2020
New #CatholicTwitter rule: Don’t engage someone that thinks that they can dismiss VCII out of hand, they are technically saying that the whole #Church, speaking in union with Peter, can err. In other words, they have no faith in the Holy Spirit, these people aren’t #Catholics.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 21, 2020
Yeah. I’m still referring you back to one of the great fathers of the Church. Yours is an expression of personal taste, not an argument. Your position also puts you in schism and grave error as it denies the role of the Holy Spirit in an ecumenical council promulgated by 2 saints
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 21, 2020
Oooo a quasi intellectual sounding label given with no context to masque what’s really an ad hominem! Fun! Actually no, I’m referring to Cyprian of Carthage, that would make me a classicist. Thanks for playing!
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 21, 2020
Your argument is the equivalent of “I know you are but what am .” Read Cyprian, in the Latin, in its original context. It’s clear that VCII has it right on EENS. Have a good one.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 21, 2020
You’d think. Funny how a certain strain of conspiracy theorist is trying to profit of of even this sad moment.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 21, 2020
It’s really an interesting thing to study, as St John Paul II said at Zappopan, moments like this are where the local culture meets the Gospel. It’s fun to see Matthew 28 at work in new ways in different places.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 21, 2020
and then people used it out of context. Pachamama representations look much more like mountains than a pregnant Amazonian woman in a canoe.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 21, 2020
The statues that were thrown into the river are VASTLY different from any representation of pachamama I’ve ever seen in my extensive study of it. Pachamama was actually a term imposed from outside commentators, unfortunately Francis used it in a flip way after having heard it.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 21, 2020
When you present Marian ways of discussing it and Divine ways of discussing it, among Catholics the Marian way seems to hold the day. It’s no wonder that there are aesthetic affinities between the early Spanish Iconography of OL Copacabana and Pachamama.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 21, 2020
Further, I’ve done the research on Pachamama for my own dissertation in the context of how the concept maps on to devotion to our Lady of Copacabana, and traveled there to speak to people about it myself.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 21, 2020
Pachamama is an Andean, not Amazonian concept. In the Andes, where extensive ethnographic research has been done on the matter, ethnographies would tend to agree that that is not the way that it is treated among the Aymara and Quechua speaking peoples where it originates.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 21, 2020
Oh! I think he meant first commandment. As the pachamama is not a god, though, that act doesn’t rise to the level of destroying an idol. Barring that, it’s simple petty theft and vandalism of a piece of representative art work meant to bring the people of the Amazon to mind.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 21, 2020
Sorry I don’t follow @Trisagion, @RobertBlyton chose to block rather than engage in a conversation about the topic, so I’ll need a refresher on what part of the conversation you’re referring to.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 21, 2020
Therefore, 7th commandment violated, they’re not Boniface reborn, they’re just petty thieves.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 20, 2020
Sorry to burst your bubble, Pachamama’s not a god in the Amazon (nor in the Andes, where it comes from) it’s akin to the “Mother Earth,” that St Francis praises God for in the Canticle. What would I know, though? I’ve just spent years & several trips to Bolivia researching it.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 20, 2020
Notice how the “Catholics” like @TaylorRMarshall who participated in that violation of the 7th commandment are now appalled at the lack of respect for, and the destruction of, private property? They can’t have their cake and eat it too, it’s intellectually dishonest.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 20, 2020
well, as you’re merel using it as a signifier for unintelligent or brutish, just say unintelligent and brutish.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 20, 2020
I think any Catholic can, and should, express their disagreement, or even disgust, with the action of others as they perceive them without using racially laden terms
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 20, 2020
Please define “Neanderthals,” that’s often been a term loaded with racial undertones. I’m sure you don’t mean it that way.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 20, 2020
Ricci and Serra are polar opposites. I am very much in favor of Ricci’s method, which is respectful of the local culture and people precisely so that the Gospel can be fruitfully shared with them.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 20, 2020
I wouldn’t make that argument, but I also wouldn’t use Serra’s methods on mission with them either. Having worked in mission territory, sharing the Gospel has to be done both in word and deed. I think he likely did his best with what he had, but he also shouldn’t be a mode for us
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 20, 2020
Yeah you’re making an argument against one that I’m not making. Serra used missionary methods that we wouldn’t use today, and those methods were grounded in a theological understanding that an ecumenical council saw fit to correct. Bad theology has consequences.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 20, 2020
The command of Christ in Matthew 28 can’t be abbrogated by any council, nor should it be. How we understand that mission and the methods that are used, though, are important in light of VCII’s clarification EENS. Vigano wants that clarification scrapped.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 20, 2020
Dear Doctors and Nurses, the world saw how much good you did in a very difficult situation. Even when you were exhausted, you continued dedicating yourselves with professionalism and self-sacrifice. This generates hope. My esteem and sincere thanks go to you!
— Pope Francis (@Pontifex) June 20, 2020
Exactly, there was an entire line of thinking heading up to Vatican II around issues of heaven and hell that motivated a lot of this sort of behavior, even among the best of people. This is the sort of theology that #Vigano and @TaylorRMarshall and their ilk would see restored.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 20, 2020
I mean that Serra’s actions were motivated by a soteriology that saw such a grave urgency behind the conversion of the indigenous people of California, that he was willing to use means we’d reject now on the grounds that it was genuinely for their own good.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 20, 2020
Perhaps the current controversy around St. Juniper Serra is a good caution of the price of bad #Catholic theology (in this case a misapplication of St Cyprian of Carthage’s “Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus”) both for heroically virtuous people and for those they try to evangelize. pic.twitter.com/W03Nsczx3X
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 20, 2020
This is is where @TaylorRMarshall shows his crypto Protestantism. Divine ubiquity in the #Catholic sacramental world view means that nothing is ever really “abandoned” by God. Sadly, and I’m not accusing him of it intentionally, this line of thinking can have antisemetic roots. pic.twitter.com/lhBxdYvIOi
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 19, 2020
The word “courage,” has the Latin “cor,” heart, at its foundation. St Bernard said that gazing on the wounds of the Christ’s heart in love gives us courage to live with our own wounds & move forward. The world needs a little courage right now. Happy feast of the Sacred Heart! pic.twitter.com/CAmNgZrORe
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 19, 2020
19 June 325 After a month in session, the Nicene Creed is promulgated by the Council of Nicaea.The illustration is from a N. Italian compendium of canon law, ca. 825. The figures at the bottom are burning writings by Arius #OTD pic.twitter.com/ywn55W8def
— Candida Moss (@candidamoss) June 19, 2020
Vote often and early.... https://t.co/BGEsnYdbJi
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 18, 2020
I really hope that a certain kind of #Catholic on here will leave #Pope emeritus #BenedictXVI alone while he attends to his dying brother rather than using him flying to be at his brother’s bed as an occasion of intrigue. I’m looking at you @TaylorRMarshall, be compassionate.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 18, 2020
You have a conservative majority, Mr President. They are just more concerned with the rule of law than you’d like them to be.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 18, 2020
Now you have a new saint to intercede for you. Ironically enough, I was just finishing my swim workout for the day when I learned about her!
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 18, 2020
So much good coffee all over the GTA!
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 18, 2020
Great question. Maybe ask the folks at Monastery Stays.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 18, 2020
People forget https://t.co/avyna8hniV
— WCHC Sports 88.1 FM (@WCHC_Sports) June 17, 2020
As an avowed Trump supporter your assumptions seem overly sanguine Curt.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 17, 2020
It writes itself!
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 17, 2020
Of course, but I suspect that it’s also true that if whatever accounts of being that you come up with aren’t based in the face of the other they’d likely tend toward violence.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 17, 2020
That exists. https://t.co/CE1p9AWEEi
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 17, 2020
I think Levinas was right in all of this, start from Ethics on both counts.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 17, 2020
I was today days old when, thanks to @house_of_bread1, I learned that there is a mermaid who is a canonized #Catholic #Saint. Behold, St Muirgein, the new patroness of my summer swims in the Atlantic: https://t.co/6Vw9xgvFDr
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 17, 2020
Hey Guys, you know what would be a good idea? Let’s carve the faces of our presidents into the side of someone else’s sacred mountains that we swore not to touch in the Fort Laramie Treaty. Sounds like fun! 🤦🏻♂️ We should return what we stole from the Sioux. #NativeLivesMatter https://t.co/1oB8EQQdjU
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 17, 2020
Great question. Read the linked article, it does a really good job of explaining it.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 16, 2020
Say it with me: #Trump 👏🏻 is 👏🏻not👏🏻 pro-life👏🏻: U.S. attorney general orders execution dates set for four federal inmates | Article [AMP] | Reuters https://t.co/aO8rPq93YJ
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 16, 2020
Thanks for this! If they’re following and promoting Vigano, then sadly I’d say yes. @TaylorRMarshall has compared these letters to reading divine revealed scripture in the form of Pauline Epsitles though, so he drew my particular attention. At this point I feel sorry for the guy.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 16, 2020
For the record, I won’t block anyone for disagreeing with me, but if you engage in hateful conduct I will report you without a second thought. Civility is a low bar, particularly amongst #Catholic #tweeps who should be bound by the law of love in #Jesus #Christ. pic.twitter.com/fc7zvE5Qgr
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 16, 2020
Everything I’ve said is based off of things both men have published. Prayers for you as well.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 16, 2020
Well, since Twitter is the means that @TaylorRMarshall uses to communicate what #Vigano is saying, it seems the right venue. This thread actually shows careful thought on the subject and a request to pray for the individuals involved, not said lightly at all.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 16, 2020
So @MLB are you going to refund all of us for the yearly subscription to the MLB app? Back me up on this @gregorykhillis.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 16, 2020
My personal favorite, his favorite French breakfast pun... “I’ve only had one egg, because an oeuf is enough.” Avery Dulles would say that.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 15, 2020
To be clear, this is no longer about being right in the polemic, as a pastor and theologian I am worried for their souls.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 15, 2020
Pray for their conversion. 7/7
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 15, 2020
@TaylorRMarshall, Archbishop Vigano, and those who follow them seem to be walking the path that the Arians walked after Nicea. Following that path sadly puts them outside of the Church and in danger of heresy. Schism is always a wound in the body of Christ, so we should all 6/7
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 15, 2020
Seems to place limits both on divine sovereignty and divine mercy, which casts doubt on their orthodoxy altogether. Sadly, every council produces its schismatics as sin means that some people refuse to listen to the Holy Spirit clearly moving in the Church. 5/7
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 15, 2020
The deeper and more important theological question, particularly as they doubt the doctrine that the fullness of truth subsists in the Church but that God’s goodness and mercy mean that that truth is evident outside of the Church 4/7
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 15, 2020
It is fairly apparent in this case, as we believe, that the Church speaking as a whole in union with Peter on matters of faith and morals cannot err. To hold otherwise is to place oneself in error, to do so obstinately as they have makes one a schismatic. 3/7
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 15, 2020
What it seems to come down to, for me, is an ecclesiological question and a deeper theological question. The ecclesiological question is grounded in the reality that Vatican II, which they are throwing in doubt, was an Ecumenical Council of the Church promulgated by 2 saints. 2/7
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 15, 2020
Thread: I’ve read, thought about, and considered this article for a few days. I think that #Vigano is, indeed, in schism, as are his followers @TaylorRMarshall among them. I don’t say that lightly. 1/7 https://t.co/pK5i9Z0sO9 via @where_peter_is
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 15, 2020
The archypal expression of #WhitePrivilege is protesting because you now have to pay the ¢14 that everyone else normally pays for their donuts. 🤣 #BlackLivesMatter Good work @AlliesDonuts, I’ll be patronizing your fine establishment soon! https://t.co/4b5igQoFaX
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 15, 2020
There’s a whole gaggle of those, by several reports Marini is staying on as boss.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 15, 2020
There’s talk of “Liturgical Colonization,” parish by parish. I’ll leave to you imagination what that’s about.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 15, 2020
Sorry! I got the document wrong! It’s from the Apostolic tradition which dates to about the year 200 AD! It’s actually MUCH older than the form that the extraordinary form like Taylor Marshal promote! Good choice!
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 15, 2020
Fair enough!
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 15, 2020
Agreed! Read the rest of the thread it gets weirder.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 15, 2020
I think you’re right sadly
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 15, 2020
Yeah, nothing. It’s based on the Didache which is one of the most ancient prayers of the Church.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 15, 2020
Ask yourself, did a man running from the police whose only offense was probably sleeping off the alcohol he had consumed present a serious bodily threat to the police? If someone is running while being tazed can they threaten? If #RayshardBrooks was white would he be alive? #BLM
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 14, 2020
Sadly it seems to be all about how he can profit off of religion. A bit of Gnosticism and Manicheeism combined make money.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 14, 2020
I know that they’re using the word equivocally here, but @TaylorRMarshall literally uses the term “colonization” rather than, say, evangelization to talk about how to manipulate the #CatholicChurch. It’s not about #Jesus for these guys, it’s about a cultural project. pic.twitter.com/0CfuuX2PJJ
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 14, 2020
Actually the reason why they don’t let popes be organ donors.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 14, 2020
Happy Feast of Saint Anthony of Padua/Lisbon! https://t.co/sbI2knoo6q
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 13, 2020
For the record, I’m not saying that the #TLM isn’t beautiful, or even that I don’t enjoy attending it on occasion even if I’ve never felt comfortable celebrating it. I’m just saying that making claims for it as THE legitimate form in the west is ahistorical and colonizing.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 13, 2020
Basically, if their colonial euro-supremacist way of thinking isn’t THE way of thinking, then the whole project falls. Our tradition grew exponentially in Europe, but its revelation is fully in the Son of God made man in ancient Israel, which excludes any sort of exceptionalism.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 13, 2020
Thanks for the good and helpful question! I think that, either way, it’s a theologically weighted term that they need to be attentive too if they’re going to assert it in this manner. Hope that’s helpful!
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 13, 2020
Sadly true. The problem is that @RorateCaeli’s whole project of the universalization of the extraordinary form of the #Catholic mass is so incredibly bound to a Eurocentric perspective, which is odd since Jesus wasn’t European, that they’re bound to this way of thinking.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 13, 2020
It’s a theologically masked attempt at the “I don’t see race,” or “privilege isn’t a thing,” nonsense which only perpetuates our problems in an attempt to release society from its responsibility to deal with its sinful structures.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 13, 2020
Except that our Lord #Jesus was the spotless victim and so all of salvation history is read through a prism of victimhood? #Catholic #Theology says otherwise! pic.twitter.com/G95mAJBnC4
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 13, 2020
In 1794 a Spanish priest in Mexico tried to make the story of Guadalupe fit into a Spanish literary archetype & made the story of the apparitions more European & colonial. He was immediately shipped home to Spain by the Bishop. Narratives matter in #Theology. #Decolonize
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 13, 2020
Leo XIII’s encyclical on dueling might have some important Thomistic Citations for you.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 12, 2020
One could make equal claims about the organization that wrote the article that you site being bad for the Church. Has the Congregation for the Docrtine of the Faith formally accused Fr Martin of heresy and asked him to recant? Plus, this article doesn’t accuse him of heresy.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 12, 2020
So you’ve read Fr. Martin’s books and can quote me a specific heresy? Because they’ve all passed the appropriate ecclesiastical censors.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 12, 2020
I’ve moved operations to Rhode Island for the time being, the fresh sea air will console me.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 12, 2020
I’m deeply wounded. They called me an idiot but could only refer to the dictionary for their argument. It sadly shows how weak their position is and how little faith they have in it.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 12, 2020
That’s not clear. There are many saints that the Church should rightly hold up in this time as people who worked against hatred, slavery, and racism. As Pope Benedict reminds us, the saints are living examples of the Gospel, we should offer their example now more than ever.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 12, 2020
Good thing my argumentation is firmly rooted in the tradition of the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church then. Donatism is also condemned, just FYI. Read some St Augustine, it might help! Prayers for you all the same!
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 12, 2020
Well then. Given your apparent lack of charity, which should be a guiding principle in any exchange between believers, I think we’re done here. Prayers for you brother in Christ.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 12, 2020
Apparently you’re friends with him, having referred to him in such a familiar manner.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 12, 2020
You mean Fr. James Martin?
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 12, 2020
I am, and a theologian who has made an argument from the work of St John Damascene rather than the OED. Just pointing out that a self-styled “traditional” Catholic site is arguing theology from the dictionary rather than the tradition when it comes to a theological point.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 12, 2020
The next thing that’ll be at issue will be the number of people who are evicted from their homes as the Covid protections expire as well. It’s only going to get worse sadly.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 12, 2020
I’ll base my theology in the fathers rather than the OED thanks!
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) June 12, 2020
