Good.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 2, 2018
from Twitter https://twitter.com/mrogerssj
Good.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 2, 2018
If Cardinal Burke knew and did nothing?
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 2, 2018
I’m just asking questions here, there no argument in my response.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 2, 2018
The rota?
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 2, 2018
So to be clear, you’re willing to speak against the legacy of St. John Paul II?
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 2, 2018
Which ones do you suppose have such information?
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 2, 2018
He said any sanctions were “private” ie, they wouldn’t be in the files you’re calling for. Sorry, to me it seems that the narrative that you’ve espoused just doesn’t seem to hold up. We all want truth, I just don’t think it’s down the rabbit hole you’ve gone down.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 2, 2018
But there are so many, which one are you talking about? He secretariat of state lead by John Paul II’s appointee, Cardinal Sodano, under whom McCarrick rose to power?
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 2, 2018
Governments are large... thousands work in the Roman Curia, to whom are you referring specifically? Pope St. John Paul II, Who elevated him?
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 2, 2018
He walked back implications of formal sanctions
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 2, 2018
Define Holy See.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 2, 2018
You know as well as I do that the Holy See is a big bureaucratic entity. Define Holy See.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 2, 2018
Again, what would it tell us that simply looking at what McCarrick did when he was supposedly sanctioned doesn’t?
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 2, 2018
Who is sheltering the truth? #popefrancis invited the press to do their job. He’s clearly not afraid.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 2, 2018
You’re relying on the “testimony” of a man who has had to walk back what he’s said... ok.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 2, 2018
I didn’t say you were one of those people... I don’t know you, and I wouldn’t presume to pass judgement on you, or anyone. I merely acknowledged that such people exist. Not sure where you’re coming from on this one.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 2, 2018
And I’ll repeat, I don’t think the release of whatever files you’re calling for would mean much.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 2, 2018
Those people exist, and they insult, and not simply critique, a good and faithful priest of God doing his best in his vocation.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 2, 2018
Yet another needless insult, this time that I’m “cagey.” Having some experience with these things, and knowing how bad actors in the Church manipulate things, I’m not sure said files would be of any use. Not clericalism, just speaking from what I know.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 2, 2018
What files? That’s the real question.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 2, 2018
I’m not sure how your comment advances the conversation, other than to needlessly add to the rancor through pithy insults of good men. Thus, I’m done with this conversation as well. If you want to have a real conversation about truth and our Church, I’m in.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 2, 2018
I’m saying that, files releasedor not, what happened seems evident given what we know of McCarrick’s schedule. He was a bad actor who rose to power under JPII, and maintained it, however tenuously, under BXVI. I’m also, frankly, not sure what “files” there are to release.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 2, 2018
Then let it be, without reservation, that we all need to pray for the Church that we love. https://t.co/wNEKuSX72l
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 2, 2018
See, there you go. I hope how you can understand how that tweet sounds like you’re taking down to me. If you intend it, though I won’t accuse you of it, would be laicalism, and it’s the other extreme of what you accuse me of.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 2, 2018
I wouldn’t presume to speak for what he was thinking, but I do think there was wisdom in his approach, and I think that that lay press has actually vindicated him.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 2, 2018
He put the investigation into the hands of the largely lay Catholic press
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 2, 2018
That said, to clarify, I think Francis’ approach is actually opposed to clericalism
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 2, 2018
One is allowed to eat dinner and put down Twitter, right? You accusing me of clericalism, rather than addressing the question at hand, is an ad hominem argument. It’s the paradigm of an ad hominem. I know you mean better, but it is what it is.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 2, 2018
Well, clearly you haven’t followed this chain @austinruse.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 1, 2018
That’s the first I’ve been called a lefty in a long while. Those who know me would likely say otherwise. 🤣
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 1, 2018
I’m convinced that the heated debates on #catholic Twitter about the whole #vigano mess are evidence of how much we all love the #CatholicChurch. The real trick would be if we could remember that each of us are the #church, as the people of #God, in how we talk to each other here
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 1, 2018
Of course we can disagree! This is the “messy Church” that Francis talks about, its good for us. You made an ad hominem argument though, which is really no argument, and leaves no further room for conversation. I wish you only the best! Prayer and blessings!
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 1, 2018
I agree! That charism of service is why I even engaged in this conversation on Twitter, which can be so divisive as a forum. Thanks for not assuming the worst. I really did mean to engage her as a sister in Christ, nothing less. Sadly, I found us at an insurmountable impasse.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 1, 2018
Look the the myriad well documented reports in the past week that, if there were “private” sanctions on McCarrick, Benedict certainly wasn’t interested in enforcing them. It’s clear this is not what Vigano implied it was.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 1, 2018
Yet more name calling. You accuse me, someone you’ve never met and who has dialogued with you in good faith, of the thing opposite of the only evidence that you have of my character. Now we really are done here. I’ll be praying for you.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 1, 2018
Again, I’ve engaged you in dialogue here as an equal. You don’t actually know me. Not sure what foundation you have for such a claim. God bless, I’ll be praying for you. This conversation, having devolved to name calling, is no longer fruitful.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 1, 2018
Chile is actually the proof! When he knew he was wrong he apologized. He knows he doesn’t have to here.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 1, 2018
Quite the opposite! #PopeFrancis trusts the people of God to look at the facts, as are already evident through the historical record, and draw their own conclusions. He knows you and I don’t need him to tell us the truth, we’re perfectly capable of sorting it ourselves.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 1, 2018
How? I’m just one of the faithful people of God, like you, looking at the facts and telling the truth. God bless!
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 1, 2018
Francis encouraged the press to look into it, and the historical record has clearly vindicated him. Vigano’s admission that there were no formal sanctions does as well. Who is operating in bad faith? Oremus pro invicem.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 1, 2018
He didn’t need to and he knew that. The historical record tells us everything we need to know. Why would he dignify those claims with a response?
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 1, 2018
Yep, some in the Church, like #Vigano, are operating in bad faith. #popefrancis isn’t though. That’s why he opened the case to the scrutiny of the laity in the institution of the press.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 1, 2018
#Vigano first claimed that #Benedict sanctioned #McCarrick and that Francis should’ve known and maintained it. That’s the foundation of the “testimony.” Now he says they were private, so Francis had no way of knowing. He made false claims, the two can’t coexist.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 1, 2018
I think that a part of what Francis is getting at here is that one needs only to look to the historical record to know that #Vigano made false claims. The truth speaks for itself, no one else really needs to. @austeni is right, encouraging this sort of digging is important.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 1, 2018
“I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my #church, and (neither) the gates of the netherworld (nor #Viganò )shall prevail against it.” #vigano admits there were no formal sanctions to enforce, essentially clearing #popefrancis .
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 1, 2018
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Old and new #skyscrapers. #toronto #ontario #canada🇨🇦 #travel #architecture https://t.co/x3evC3DeI6 pic.twitter.com/ozyF5KBwfB
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 1, 2018
Everything #old is #new again. Wandering the streets and shops of the @distilleryto . #architecture #toronto #canada #travel https://t.co/E6Q6O1gYAb pic.twitter.com/yft3i9o3j5
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 1, 2018
When @NCRegister has to admit that they were wrong to publish the #Vigano “testimony” against #PopeFrancis without checking the facts first.... #retract pic.twitter.com/GioAIjzE8s
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 1, 2018
So... @NCRegister is worried that their original reporting of #Viganò was wrong... I’m shocked. #Pray that this needlessly virulent nonsense against the vicar of #christ will now end. https://t.co/9dfhiVnxO6
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 1, 2018
#ancient, new, and #natural forms. #museums #toronto #islam #religion #history #architecture https://t.co/nVZNMKENxg pic.twitter.com/h2DoKtt64q
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) September 1, 2018
Yes to this. I’ve lived both extremes, strong clericalism in Rome and what @MassimoFaggioli calls “laicalism” in higher ed in the US . We are, and need to be, the people of God together on the way helping each other, not two separate factions. https://t.co/tGiYvovfnT
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) August 30, 2018
Wisdom in this whole thing from a good friend. Well done @MtKeppel https://t.co/TsqBjBMIiA
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) August 30, 2018
Ok seriously people, now even evangelicals are weighing in on this nonsense... can we just stop? https://t.co/ifcSlMuAav
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) August 30, 2018
So the new pope should be a Protestant... ok thanks but....
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) August 30, 2018
The moment for an American expat when you order a #breakfast sandwich with bacon in it in Toronto and realize that it’s Canadian bacon.. pic.twitter.com/fldPQxc9EJ
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) August 30, 2018
Agreed. https://t.co/GuoObd5oJW
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) August 29, 2018
I do not like the #yankees and by extension I hope that @Giancarlo818 will never hit another #dinger again. In these days, though, I think we all need a little unbridled joy. #baseball #bigal #littleleagueworldseries https://t.co/gFOwmiZtx5
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) August 29, 2018
One thing that we’re not paying enough attention to in all of the #Vigano morass is the role that #pope #saint #jpii had in creating this situation. The #elevation of #McCarrick to the college of #cardinals was his call. Even saints make mistakes, so let’s be honest about it.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) August 27, 2018
Francis’s response to crude Viganò putsch is very astute. He knows the claims will fall apart as journalists probe, and that the true motives behind it will be brought into the light. https://t.co/xGe3HeBMjN
— Austen Ivereigh (@austeni) August 26, 2018
May 2, 2012: Vigano greets guests on behalf of Benedict XVI at Pontifical Mission Societies gala honoring McCarrick! https://t.co/48qgqEVclU This is well *after* Vigano alleges B16 sanctioned McCarrick. His letter deserves careful scrutiny. @jdflynn @roccopalmo @AmericanPapist pic.twitter.com/IwxGaDmTNa
— Dawn Eden Goldstein (@DawnofMercy) August 27, 2018
But, to be clear, said ascent took place under JPII, which isn’t the narrative that Vigano, or those who support him, are interested in promoting.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) August 27, 2018
#PopeFancis has never defended himself against the accusations (for example at the time of the dictatorship or previously). Nor does he boast merit (as in the case of aid to those persecuted by the dictatorship) because he *knows* that sooner or later the thruth will surface.
— Antonio Spadaro (@antoniospadaro) August 26, 2018
By @inesanma traveling with Pope Francis: On charges of McCarrick cover-up, Pope Francis tells reporters to do their jobs. https://t.co/4s2v5cFqqJ
— Crux (@Crux) August 26, 2018
Wisdom from someone I am proud to know, @bemob215 https://t.co/QEqh3zqqBF
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) August 26, 2018
Well... the policy has usually been to only talk about the trip... we’ll see.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) August 26, 2018
If ever there was a day to skip it, this was likely it. Vigano’s timing was all about the press conference. Perhaps it’s better for the pope to get home and sort this out before making a statement to the press.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) August 26, 2018
The canons on this sort of sensationalism are important to keep in mind in light of the Vigano case, and as we wait for the release of the Papal press conference Post-Ireland. https://t.co/CkyK9bf7kf
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) August 26, 2018
One point worth noting for clarity: Vigano does not say that Francis had knowledge of McCarrick’s alleged abuse of minors. While that may seem like a small point, it is not immaterial.
— JD Flynn (@jdflynn) August 26, 2018
Abuse survivors groups Ending Clergy Abuse says +Vigano’s letter “is infighting between curia factions that are exploiting the abuse crisis and victims of clergy sexual abuse as leverage in the struggle for church power.” pic.twitter.com/2My7NYnFpd
— Christopher White (@cwwhite212) August 26, 2018
View from the altar for #WMOF2018 Closing Mass pic.twitter.com/hAHzSAjKJJ
— WMOF2018 (@WMOF2018) August 26, 2018
I can say that I am aware that some of the things that he implies in it are false. Though that’s a conversation best left off of Twitter.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) August 26, 2018
Vigano has opposed #popeFrancis from the beginning, and caused Francis trouble during the US visit 3 years ago. I can’t necessarily speak to the truth of what he says, but one also has to consider the source on this particular story. https://t.co/GHMv7UlmRw
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) August 26, 2018
I had the privilege of meeting #JohnMcCain while I was a young man wandering the halls of the #senate office building looking for a ticket to the #impeachment trial of #BillClinton. He welcomed us in, sat us down, & gave us a civics lesson & a ticket, a true gentleman. #rip
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) August 26, 2018
Whomever is running this account has lived my life for 15 years... that said, things only rot when there is something to feed off of, and I’ll, penitentially, take that banquet long beforewhat the world has offer. I’m a sinner, and still... https://t.co/hjA4CnjM4J
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) August 24, 2018
Some days, especially lately, this is the only argument for the credibility of the Church. https://t.co/DLpdKm3vRz
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) August 22, 2018
Important Letter from #PopeFrancis to the People of God.
— Greg Burke (@GregBurkeRome) August 20, 2018
Importante Carta del #PapaFrancisco al Pueblo de Dios.https://t.co/HdrXVQnAUJ
Congrats to my old stomping grounds of #Worcester , the city is certainly on the way up. #WooSox https://t.co/qrZseqCBMv
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) August 17, 2018
Walk around this joint and you’ll feel like you’re really at the #tower of Babel. #toronto #travel https://t.co/3Lqoqr2IFO pic.twitter.com/9VKL8cQthA
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) August 17, 2018
Twists and turns in the path. #art #architecture #toronto #travel #staircase https://t.co/RaCcvAqMlT pic.twitter.com/bImQvYWqz6
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) August 16, 2018
“You should know that you have not suffered alone, for you are the church; you are the People of god; you are Jesus, in the here and now.” St Oscar Romero, pray for the Church, the faithful people, who have suffered because of some in the hierarchy.
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) August 15, 2018
"I collect images of walk-off home run hitters rounding third because they are an image of heaven." J. Noem pic.twitter.com/LQnukqYewm
— Charlie Camosy (@CCamosy) August 13, 2018
If you live in a city with a #subway, take a moment the next time that you use it to consider that #jesus came to save all of these people around you. #jesuit #gratitude #contemplation #Jesuit #beajesuit pic.twitter.com/MyU6IQaiWT
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) August 11, 2018
That moment when, although you live in Canada, you see people wearing #SpaceForce t-shirts around. Well played #canada well played. #weshouldpayforeducation #weshouldpayforhealthcare pic.twitter.com/wJHCyiGv2r
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) August 11, 2018
The #RedSox eliminated the #orioles on August 10. August 10, let that sink in. #MLB
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) August 11, 2018
I have never cared less about a Red Sox loss in my life. Mookie Betts is a damn gift and so is getting to play the Orioles after a loss. On to Baltimore.
— Jared Carrabis (@Jared_Carrabis) August 10, 2018
I was there... not even mad about the loss... #gosox #RedSox #Mookie https://t.co/CVt89g6yUR
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) August 10, 2018
Sox lose, but Mookie hits for the cycle... and I was there. #notevenmad pic.twitter.com/u0KHXIcD45
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) August 10, 2018
Who won in the abortion senate result? “The faith of the people of ‘La Argentina profunda’, who through their churches mobilised millions across the country, in all the provinces and in many cities”. https://t.co/i89lbDU67F
— Austen Ivereigh (@austeni) August 9, 2018
A look at Boston last time the @RedSox lost ... pic.twitter.com/3ttwDaA0Me
— Obnoxious Boston Fan (@realOBF) August 8, 2018
Different Town, same team. #GoSox #baseball #travel https://t.co/FRJTmVmxIv pic.twitter.com/p890TcKb9E
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) August 8, 2018
I suppose I’m a varsity blue now?!? Meh. Some things will ALWAYS stay true. #gocross #BleedPurple @GoHolyCross @holy_cross pic.twitter.com/UWpU0RVkEK
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) August 7, 2018
You can make the move, organize your room, & make the dreaded #Walmart trip to buy things that you need to make your new life sustainable, but it becomes real when, after a day in your new city, you know how you’re going to have to rearrange the #apps on your #iPhone pic.twitter.com/A3JVquyjJG
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) August 6, 2018
I appreciate this theory, if all of #baseball is now routinely throwing over 100, the #intimidation factor of the #Yankees closer is gone, as are the @Yankees hopes of winning the division. #MLB 🤷🏻♂️ https://t.co/UZgaUZQskC
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) August 6, 2018
As a former high school teacher, I take great solace in seeing this. 🤣
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) August 6, 2018
“I raise my eyes toward the #mountains . From whence shall come my help?
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) August 5, 2018
My help comes from the LORD, the maker of #heaven and #earth .” #Psalm 121 #Grateful for the friends and the #grace of this week at #Lourdes that once again reminded me of how true … https://t.co/RhMvaVkLqI pic.twitter.com/O1LWqTAY0c
A #river rambles down on the way up into the #pyrenees . #nature #france #travel #ultreia #bridges #france https://t.co/K4GyZAHLFY pic.twitter.com/Q47LDHChVY
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) August 4, 2018
#Pictures simply can’t do this view of the #Pyrenees #justice. #gavarnie #france #nature #travel #mountains https://t.co/aTd3e7QFXh pic.twitter.com/0EEBsFMyJr
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) August 4, 2018
Whenever I’m tempted to get into a needless debate on #twitter i think of #saint #Bernadette dropping a #truthbomb for #theologians and would be #catholic apologists everywhere. #theology #micdrop #Evangeliigaudium #saints #placestopray pic.twitter.com/zhOMZH35pZ
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) August 3, 2018
Before the flambeau at #Lourdes . #catholic #placestopray #candlelight #procession #sunset #tramonto #mary #ourlady #bernadette https://t.co/QkE1NSnAJc pic.twitter.com/B6jRAsJ7FO
— Michael Rogers, SJ (@mrogerssj) August 2, 2018